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P0008

Engine Position System Performance Bank 1

Engine timing / position Generic OBD-II High

What it means

P0008 means the engine control module sees the camshaft and crankshaft on bank 1 as out of their expected relationship — the "engine position system" isn't performing within spec. It usually points to a stretched or jumped timing chain/belt or a failing position sensor, which can cause rough running, hard starting, and, if timing slips further, engine damage.

High

Can I keep driving? Limited — the engine may run rough, lose power, or be hard to start; drive gently and get it checked soon, since it points to a camshaft-to-crankshaft timing problem.

Real-world scan data

Seen in
97
scans in the past year
Found in
<0.1%
of scans
<0.1%
of scans that found faults

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Common symptoms

What you'll notice

Common causes

Most likely first

  1. Stretched or worn timing chain (or a jumped/misaligned belt or chain)
  2. Worn timing chain guides or tensioner letting the chain skip
  3. Failing camshaft or crankshaft position sensor
  4. Wiring or connector fault in the cam/crank sensor circuit
  5. Faulty engine control module (ECM), as a last resort

How to diagnose & fix

Work through it in order

  1. Read freeze-frame data and check for companion cam/crank codes (P0016-P0019) that pinpoint the timing error.
  2. Inspect the camshaft and crankshaft position sensors and their wiring for damage or loose connectors.
  3. Check the timing chain, guides, and tensioner for wear or stretch — a common root cause on higher-mileage engines.
  4. Verify cam-to-crank timing against the marks; correct any misalignment.
  5. If sensors and timing are good, evaluate the ECM. Clear and re-test after repair.

FAQ

Quick answers

Is it safe to drive with P0008?+
Only briefly and gently. It signals a camshaft-to-crankshaft timing problem, which can worsen and leave you stranded or cause engine damage if a chain skips further.
Can I just clear P0008?+
It will come back until the timing or sensor fault is repaired, because the ECM keeps measuring cam-versus-crank position on every drive.

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